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One more rant about healthcare

Posted by Killercod , in Rants and Raves 16 May 2011 · 338 views


This kinda thing is a hot spot for me, so after Tagon posted it I knew I had to blog about it.

Canadian researchers find a simple cure for cancer, but major pharmaceutical companies are not interested.

Researchers at the University of Alberta, in Edmonton, Canada have cured cancer last week, yet there is a little ripple in the news or in TV. It is a simple technique using very basic drug. The method employs dichloroacetate, which is currently used to treat metabolic disorders. So, there is no concern of side effects or about their long term effects.

This drug doesn’t require a patent, so anyone can employ it widely and cheaply compared to the costly cancer drugs produced by major pharmaceutical companies.

Canadian scientists tested this dichloroacetate (DCA) on human’s cells; it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells and left the healthy cells alone. It was tested on Rats inflicted with severe tumors; their cells shrank when they were fed with water supplemented with DCA. The drug is widely available and the technique is easy to use, why the major drug companies are not involved? Or the Media interested in this find?

I'll tell you why: GREED. Why cure something that is a multi-billion dollar industry? We've been working towards a cure for cancer, AIDS, MS, MD, and a laundy list of terrible diseases in some cases for over 50 YEARS now. You know what the last major disease was that we actually "cured"....POLIO...over 50 years ago. Since then we've claimed we are looking to cure alot of things, with celebrities raising millions of dollars in telethons and concerts and all sorts of revenue streams, but we just end up finding drugs to "manage" or "alleviate" the conditions.

Lets think about cancer, and just limit the research on that to the last 50-60 years. We've put men on the moon, shrank computers from the size of a large building to something you can carry in your pocket, we've split the atom, we've made scientific advancements that only a science fiction writer could have dreamed about...yet we can't cure cancer? With the millions of dollars thrown into research on that disease...what do we have to show for it?

We have pills. Pills to make you happy, make you sad, make you have better sex...and plenty of pills to "manage" every disease or condition under the sun...but nothing that acutally cures anything.

It makes me sick...and the only cure will never happen because too many people make too much money off of not curing things.

Though I'm sure there is a pill somewhere to manage my condition...

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I hear you on this one. In 1986 when i was in high school, there was a break through in a new procedure for killing only the cancer cells in japan, it's still not available in the USA.

Here are a few other Natural things to research for cancer cures (yes cures)

Pureed Asparagus, 4 tablespoons a day.

Leyatrides (think i spelled it right :P ) (natural product of seeds found in fruits)you can eat the seeds (yuck) or buy the liquid form.

Both attack ONLY the cancer cells, both cure it, and both are something anyone can buy.

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Liquid Wolf
May 19 2011 03:15 PM
DCA is public domain, and has shown it is worth using for most forms of cancer.

With some forms of cancer you probably won't see any change.
With most you'll see the cancer slow, or even stop spreading completely.
With some you'll see the cancer actually begin to die and regress.

However, remember that with a few rare types, it has shown to speed up the growth/spread of cancer. It still has to be used with great care.

I don't believe anyone is stopping DCA studies or even distribution... but it is very certain no companies are interested in following research and development using DCA or some derivative of it.

It boils down to a funding/cost issue. They can't really sell or recoup any costs from any drug that gets made, so they have no interest in looking into a solution using it. Remember... DCA is public domain so anything involving it will likely net ZERO.

Greed, Business Survival, or Self Interest... I can see how a company that cure's cancer would basically be ending their own existence. They'd probably take a few other companies with them too.

Pharmaceuticals/ Drug Companies are not in the business of curing anything... they are in the business of easing the symptoms or stopping the spread of a sickness/disease. The only time you would see a company step up to "cure" something would be if the disease/infection/cancer was already pretty well eradicated or non-existent. This would net them more investors and approval ratings.

Logically, it makes sense... why would a farmer that exclusively grows corn, help develop a new strain of corn that could be grown everywhere and by anyone? He might as well take a gun to himself and his family.

Now... if said farmer found a new crop that was more profitable... then yeah, why not help with corn?

Cancer treatments are profitable... finding a "cure" for cancer would end companies that depend on it. That isn't to say these companies are not willing to help cure cancer, but they want to become financially stable and secure in other areas first. What good is succeeding if you are not around to enjoy it?

Remember, quickly curing cancer would destroy companies and ruin billions->trillions of dollars of investments.

Not to mention it could probably affect other areas of our economy if these companies died. Think of the percentage of taxes paid, and how many people are employed by them... Like most beings, these companies want to survive and thrive like anyone else.

Think oil, gas, alternative fuel sources, and vehicles. The costs paid to implement those technologies and manufacturing methods. They are in a very similar situation.

We have developed one very slow moving wheel of progress that isn't all that easy to swap out or upgrade because no one wants to go broke.

I try to keep this in mind whenever something seems simple..

Wizards Second Rule:
The greatest harm can result from the best intentions.

Now despite my "tone"... In my mind it is completely worth it. I have no issues with these companies going under and dying to help remove cancer... Even if it upset the stability of our nation and the world. I view it as a sacrifice for a greater good.

But few people are really willing to make sacrifices that grand in scale.

From a very young age I understood that War and Death brought about progress and the hope of new life... I understood that progress and advancement were only acquired through sweat, tears, or blood. But as I get older I try to restrain that line of thinking...

We are very complex beings, and have inevitably created an overly complex way of living... There is always a cost for anything we want to do, and in times long past, slaves and the "lower classes" paid the cost for the rest of mankind. Now things are quite a bit different...

But I feel that is another discussion...

DCA is definitely worth looking into. It also appears to be the bane for any companies that depend on cancer treatments, or research. If public funding would increase enough, we could see it become something truly worthwhile and readily available. I don't expect to see any company interested in survival helping with it though...
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LW is spot on.

Politically speaking, in a very down economy, there is zero chance this will be supported publicly because of the immediate effects it would have on major pharmaceutical developers and suppliers.

I would imagine stock prices for Merk and Eli Lilly dropping 50-80% within hours of news stating the US Gov't is suddenly investing billions in DCA research for a possible cure...possibly trigging an immediate plunge in the overall market, especially in the many publicly owned companies involved in the manufacture and supply of Cancer related drugs, their components, ingredients and the hardware related delivery systems.

A short term medical industry sparked recession is the LAST thing any current politician wants on their resume....greater good or not.

Short-term money and power....short-sighted greed.
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"The simple summary is this: that claim is a lie. There have been no clinical trials of dichloroacetate (DCA) in cancer patients, so there is no basis for claiming they have a cure; some, but not all, cancers might respond in promising ways to the drug, while others are likely to be resistant (cancer is not one disease!); and there are potential neurotoxic side effects, especially when used in conjunction with other chemotherapies."

I'm not one to defend the big drug companies, but I don't think this is a case where you can attack them.
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