Sneakiest Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Looks like Invasion Force crafting is repeatable next week, so all you rich people might want to snatch up War Supplies while they're still cheap. Crystal Capacitors and Holocron of Strategy seemed to be the most expensive ones last time Invasions force crafting was repeatable. Even last week when IF weren't repeatable, CC and HoS were going for 75k, and now they're down to 20k on the off day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Wow, wish I've been checking GTN. I've got dozens of each of the others, and though I can craft those two on my main, I never can seem to get enough mats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakiest Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 Wow, wish I've been checking GTN. I've got dozens of each of the others, and though I can craft those two on my main, I never can seem to get enough mats. Ya the war supplies are cheaper right now than the sum of the mats. If you anticipate needing some, buy now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopsSciclex Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Some of my information was incorrect, please refer here. Edited October 20, 2014 by PopsSciclex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakiest Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 I think it's even better than that. 2500 per IF before stronghold bonus, so 5000 with 100% stronghold bonus, assuming we don't get any planet bonus for quesh/CZ. 750/1500 for regular war supplies with no planet bonus/100% stronghold bonus. Point is, HUGE crafting points this week! Buy mats now before the prices get crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpl Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's actually 4750 per IF with 100% stronghold bonus. Sneakiest would be right, except that the stronghold bonus is additive with the planet bonus, not multiplicative. According to Dulfy the craft time for IF is 3 hrs 24 mins, while the other WS are 51 mins. This makes the WS slightly more efficient at 100% stronghold bonus (24.5 conq points per minute) than the IF (23.3 conq points per minute). I'm not sure that this difference is significant enough to worry about, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakiest Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's actually 4750 per IF with 100% stronghold bonus. Sneakiest would be right, except that the stronghold bonus is additive with the planet bonus, not multiplicative. According to Dulfy the craft time for IF is 3 hrs 24 mins, while the other WS are 51 mins. This makes the WS slightly more efficient at 100% stronghold bonus (24.5 conq points per minute) than the IF (23.3 conq points per minute). I'm not sure that this difference is significant enough to worry about, though. Not sure I follow your math. 2000 + 500 for IF, X 2 for 100% stronghold bonus = 5k,right? That's ignoring any planetary bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopsSciclex Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 We will be going after Quesh this week, which applies Planetary bonus to all War Supplies and Invasion forces for the 250 objective. Each War Supply also contributes to it's own objective at 250. Each Invasion Force also contributes to it's own objective at 2000. War Supplies: No Stronghold Bonus: (Planetary Bonus - 250*2) + (Stronghold Bonus - 250*0.00) = 500 100% Stronghold Bonus: (Planetary Bonus - 250*2) + (Stronghold Bonus - 250*1.00) = 750 Crystal Capacitor/Holocron of Strategy/Starship Weapon/Armored Vehicle/Infantry Supply Kit: No Stronghold Bonus: (Planetary Bonus - 250*1) + (Stronghold Bonus - 250*0.00) = 250 100% Stronghold Bonus: (Planetary Bonus - 250*1) + (Stronghold Bonus - 250*1.00) = 500 Invasion Force: No Stronghold Bonus: (Planetary Bonus - 2000*1) + (Stronghold Bonus - 2000*0.00) = 2000 100% Stronghold Bonus: (Planetary Bonus - 2000*1) + (Stronghold Bonus - 2000*1.00) = 4000 Any War Supply would net you at least 500+250=750, and up to 750+500=1250. Any Invasion Force would net you at least 500+2000=2500, and up to 750+4000=4750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakiest Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Ah, I think we're talking about different things. Irrespective of planetary bonus, IF will get you 2000 for the IF and another 500 for the war supply. So no bonuses from strong hold or planet = 2500. If you have 100% stronghold bonus, that 2500 becomes 5000 right there. I think where you said 4k + 750 it should be 4k + 1k,because we get 500 per war supply and 2k per IF. If we invade quesh and get even more from planetary bonus, it's even more than 5k. Any war supply is 500, not 250. Edited October 20, 2014 by Sneakiest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpl Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Irrespective of planetary bonus, it's 250 for the war supply. On Quesh you get a 100% bonus, and if you have 100% stronghold bonus that's a total of 200% bonus, so 250 + 250 * 2 = 250*3 = 750. It's very confusing the way they set up the two independent bonuses, because they add rather than multiply. That makes it harder to write it out in a simple formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreskoss Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The easiest way to look at it is this: X = Mission Points Y = Planet Bonus Z = Stronghold Bonus X + X * Y + X * Z = Total Points For example, I have a 58% stronghold bonus, so if it was a 1,000 point mission with a planetary bonus we'd have: 1,000 + 1,000 * 1.0 + 1,000 * 0.58 = 2,580 pts. 100% for the planetary bonus turns into 1.0 when divided by 100 and 58% stronghold bonus turns into 0.58 when divided by 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmire Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Does anyone has a stack of "Crystal Capacitors" they could donate to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakiest Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Irrespective of planetary bonus, it's 250 for the war supply. On Quesh you get a 100% bonus, and if you have 100% stronghold bonus that's a total of 200% bonus, so 250 + 250 * 2 = 250*3 = 750. It's very confusing the way they set up the two independent bonuses, because they add rather than multiply. That makes it harder to write it out in a simple formula. Not to beat a dead horse, but I think you're confusing last week with this week. According to Dulfy anyway, the generic WS value is 500, with an additional 250 for the specific type. Therefore, IF gets 2k + 500 instead of 2k + 250. I'm ignoring all bonuses for simplicity. Edit, never mind, dulfy was wrong, it's 250 for generic war supply. Edited October 21, 2014 by Sneakiest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpl Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yeah, Dulfy has a bunch of wrong information, and I think she goes back and fixes each week once it starts. The best source I have found is swtor_miner's google spreadsheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopsSciclex Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yeah, Dulfy has a bunch of wrong information, and I think she goes back and fixes each week once it starts. The best source I have found is swtor_miner's google spreadsheet. ^ This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpl Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Does anyone has a stack of "Crystal Capacitors" they could donate to me? I bought a bunch of CC and HoS on the GTN last night since there were some at ok prices. I will also be crafting them on my artificer at least until he hits the goal. I'm going to start dumping them in the "conquest deposit" tab of the guild bank I think. Unless there's a better place? Also if we are going to use that tab for conquest mats, we should probably clear out the million decos that are in there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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